Re: [802SEC] PARs under consideration at the NOV09 plenary
As far back as I can remember, there has NEVER been any requirement for a WG to perform or
present separate votes on each of the 6 items you list, neither is it a stated or implied
requirement of our operating rules that we do so. Neither is there any requirement in our
rules that we report on the anticipated number of individuals and corporations that will
actively participate in "teh" development.
Notwithstanding the above, if what you are expecting me (and the other WGs that have draft
PARs) to do is to run 6 separate motions and votes in my closing Plenary on the PAR text
and the separate 5C items, then you are going to be disappointed.
I agree with you that EC review of proposed projects is one of the (if not THE) ECs most
serious duties, and that the 5C are not pro-forma items, but making the process more
onerously bureaucratic is not the way to ensure that it is taken seriously.
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On
Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
Sent: 30 October 2009 01:49
Subject: Re: [802SEC] PARs under consideration at the NOV09 plenary
An "estimate" is not good enough for me and it shouldn't be good enough
for the EC as a whole.
We have required numerical votes on project paperwork for years.
I will vigorously speak in opposition to any PAR that is proposed for EC
vote without SEPARATE numerical votes for each of the following items
that is to be presented to the EC
WG numerical vote on the final PAR text
WG vote on the responses to the Broad Market Potential criteria
WG vote on the responses to the Technical Feasibility criteria
WG vote on the responses to the Economic Feasibility criteria
WG vote on the responses to the Compatibility criteria
WG vote on the responses to the Distincy Identity criteria
Report on the anticipated number of individuals and corporations
that will actively participate in teh development
I consider the EC review of proposed projects to be one of our most
seriouis duties. In particular, the 5 Criteria are not just a pro-forma
paper exercise. They are to be taken as a serious examination of the
justification for the project.
If there is any PAR that doesn't have the numbers at this point, there
is no reason that they can't be gathered during the Atlanta Plenary.
On 10/29/09 3:47 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
> Dear EC Members,
> There are a lot of PARs under consideration in November. One of the key data points I'd
like to see is the level of WG support for each of the PARs. Please provide the EC the
numerical results (approve/disappove/abstain) of the WG votes on the motions supporting
the PAR/5Cs. If the vote was not numerically recorded--e.g., unanimous approval, please
provide an estimate of the number of WG members present at the time of the vote.
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