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James, First, I want to assure everybody that this dialog is about a nit; just a case of friendly elbowing. We have a case of documents in edit and a question of which to use. The latest versions are the ones I used as reference for my letters (attached). They are not the same as what you refer to. Also your original note referred to the OM and the note below refers to the P&P. In the new OM document section 5.1 is about Plenaries while Section 6.1 is about Voting Guidance. The new P&P has nothing equivalent on this topic that I could find. Hence, when I tried to find your original reference in the OM it didn't exist. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James Gilb Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:03 AM To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Endorsement and affiliation letters for James Gilb - correction Bruce Thanks for the vote of confidence. However, for better or worse, I copied the wording from our latest P&P (at least I think it is the latest one, it was appoved in early 2009, Mat?) It says: Any person to be confirmed by the Sponsor shall, prior to confirmation by the Sponsor, file with the Recording Secretary a letter of endorsement from their supporting entity. This letter is to document several key factors relative to their participation on the Sponsor and is to be signed by both the Sponsor member and an individual who has management responsibility for the Sponsor member. This letter shall contain at least the following: a) Statement of qualification based on technical expertise to fulfill the assignment b) Statement of support for providing necessary resources (e.g., time, travel expenses to meetings), and c) Recognition that the individual is expected to act in accordance with the conditions stated in subclause 5.1 of the IEEE 802 Operations Manual dealing with voting "as both a professional and as an individual expert." In our current OM (aproved 11/14/2008, in force since March 2009 when the P&P was approved and is currently unmodified), the voting guidance is in section 5.1. Section 6, which does not have any subsections, is for interpretations. Or am I way confused? If so, I will happily change the example endorsement letter, which can be found at: http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.shtml James Gilb Bruce Kraemer wrote: > James, Thanks for reminding me to get these prepared. However, before > we all get too far in copying your splendid example I note that your > endorsement letter refers to the wrong OM paragraph. The correct > sub-clause is actually 6.1 not 5.1. > > I'll probably vote for you anyway. > > Bruce > > -----Original Message----- From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee > List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James Gilb > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:59 PM To: > STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Endorsement and affiliation > letters for James Gilb > > Dear 802 EC members > > Please find attached the endorsement and affiliation letters for > myself. I thought it best to send mine out to the EC list rather than > emailing it to myself. > > Unless I hear otherwise, I am going to consider electronic copies and > signatures as sufficient for the requirement for these letters. > Thus, if you want to email me scanned copies of the signed letter, > that will be OK. > > James Gilb > > ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email > reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. > > ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email > reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. > ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.