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The store seems to have been set up without an understanding of the IEEE Standards process and the difference between standards and drafts. Here is the first entry from a search on 802.1Q: [cid:image003.png@01CC0021.0C090420] Note that is says "Replaced by IEEE 802.1Q" - that points to a draft from the current 802.1Q revision process. IEEE 802.1Q-2005 isn't replaced until that project is approved and published so there shouldn't be a Replaced by entry. Similarly, "Amended by" contains a mix of approved amendments, e.g. 802.1Qav, and drafts from current amendment projects. 802.1Q hasn't been amended until the amendment is approved and that field should only contain approved standards. It could be useful to also have pointers to current drafts, but those should be distinguished from the published standards. For some reason, IEEE 802.1Qat doesn't appear in the search results though if I search on IEEE 802.1Qat it does show up. The draft of 802.1bd appears but the other drafts don't. There should be a way for the user to ask for only active standards in the search result or to broaden the search to add superseded standards and/or drafts. A search on 802.1 returned only 3 results: drafts of 802.1Q and 802.17, and the standard 802.3k-1992 (an amendment to a superseded revision of 802.3). [cid:image006.png@01CC0021.0C090420] The description includes the statement that the amendment is superseded, but it is somewhat inconspicuous. The listing should highlight that this is a superseded standard by putting that information with the title similar to the entry for Amends line. On the upside, the 802.1Q listing now says that the project has a corrigendum and when I go to the page for 802.1Q-2005, the link to the Corrigendum after "This product has a corrigendum:" Regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:15 PM To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [802SEC] Fw: New IEEE Standards Store The search function doesn't work well. Typing in 802.1 brings up 802.1Q, 802.11, 802.17 and 802.3k-1992 but not any of the other 802.1 standards. There are corrigenda out for 802.1Q and 802.3. Some pointer to the Corrigenda to a standard should be on the page of the standard, but I don't see anything about the Corrigenda on either of those. It isn't listed in related products though it should be. The amendments to 802.1Q are also not listed in related products. Only one 802.3 amendment is listed in related products. Drafts are incorrectly marked and don't have the draft number, for example IEEE 802.1Q rather than IEEE P802.1Q/D1.5. Also, it only says draft in the small print of the title. Without the draft number so there is no way to check which draft is being sold. (Drafts are replaced pretty often so it would be easy for them to be behind when a new draft just came out.) Finished standards are listed as IEEE number-year rather than IEEE Std. number-year. When I try to browse 802 LAN/MAN/PAN it say Loading with a thing that goes around in circles, but nothing loads. Regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 4:16 AM To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [802SEC] Fw: New IEEE Standards Store Dear EC Members, Please note the below message from Karen McCabe and give the store a try. Please provide feedback directly to Karen (firstname.lastname@example.org) and copy me. Regards, --Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: email@example.com To: Paul Nikolich Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:24 PM Subject: New IEEE Standards Store Paul The new IEEE Standards Store is live. You can check it out at: http://standards.ieee.org/store Thank you for "rounding up" a few IEEE 802 volunteers to test it. As we strive to fix our single sales challenges and provide a shop environment that meets the needs of standards customers, I look forward to working with the 802 community for its continued input and feedback! Karen Karen McCabe, CME Staff Director, Strategic Marketing and Product Development 445 Hoes Lane, PO Box 1331 Piscataway NJ 08855 USA PH: +1 732 562 3824 email: firstname.lastname@example.org http://standards.ieee.org IEEE - Advancing Technology for Humanity ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.