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Re: [STDS-802-11-CAC] [STDS-802-11] Results of poll related to 2021 September member input



--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Chairs' Advisory Committee Reflector ---

G’day Mark

 

I agree we have a problem in that we do not know what the travel advisories will say in the future. This makes it very difficult to plan future meetings, given the need  to make commitments well ahead of the actual meeting. However, IMHO, we should never expose our members’ health and safety to our (mostly uninformed) guesses.

 

I have no issue in continuing to plan a meeting based on a guess about what future travel advisories might say. However, the F2F meeting needs to be cancelled if that guess turns out to be incorrect at the point we need to make a go/no go decision for contractual or practical reasons.

 

Andrew

 

From: mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2021 10:16 AM
To: Andrew Myles (amyles) <amyles@xxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-CAC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-11-CAC] [STDS-802-11] Results of poll related to 2021 September member input

 

Andrew,

 

In my opinion, what we are asking is for the membership to “guess” whether what you describe below will still be the conditions as of September.  Sure, many countries are “reconsider/do not travel” right now, and I would agree with you that it is unreasonable to expect our members to travel under those conditions.  But, will that still be the case in September?  I don’t know how any of us can make such a guess.

 

So, I think the question we really are facing is how much advance notice do we have to have, to make travel reasonable/practical for members, once we have reached some point at which we can “guess” with a high degree of confidence.  If we wait until June to make this decision, is that still okay in terms of planning/arranging travel?  3 months seems like enough, to me, but I don’t have the challenges that I know some others do in arranging travel.  But, I could well imagine that by June things will have changed/will be clearly changing, such that our “guess” will be more accurate.

 

Mark

 

From: *** IEEE stds-802-11-cac List *** <STDS-802-11-CAC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Andrew Myles (amyles)
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 6:10 PM
To: STDS-802-11-CAC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-CAC] [STDS-802-11] Results of poll related to 2021 September member input

 

--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Chairs' Advisory Committee Reflector ---

G’day all

 

The results below are relatively clear that a Sept F2F meeting is not viable/reasonable. However, it does highlight the question of what is our criteria for restarting F2F meetings?

 

Given we are an international SDO, my view is that we should take into account the accessibility of F2F locations to our members internationally.

 

One way of doing this is to consider government travel advisories. Using the USG as an example, most of the world is rated as:

  • Level 3: Reconsider Travel
  • Level 4: Do Not Travel

 

Many/most countries currently rate the US as Level 3 or Level 4 too. It is not reasonable to ask our members to visit countries contrary to government advice. Members in many of these countries are practically not allowed to visit the US and other countries, both by rules in their home country and the destination country.

 

There are a bunch of Level 2 countries based on the USG rating (some surprising), including a few that IEEE 802.11 WG has visited before (bolded):

  • Belize
  • Benin
  • Grenada
  • Palau
  • Saint Kitts and Nevis
  • Singapore
  • South Korea
  • Thailand
  • Vietnam
  • Liberia
  • Mauritania
  • Montserrat
  • Rwanda
  • Sri Lanka
  • Zimbabwe
  • Bhutan

 

Maybe  we should restrict any future surveys to destinations that are rated by most governments as Level 1 or Level 2?

 

Andrew

 

 

 

From: Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2021 4:05 AM
To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11] Results of poll related to 2021 September member input

 

--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector ---

All,

 

The results of the recent poll are below. These results are input to the Wireless Chairs standing committee decision re: in person or electronic upcoming September meeting.

 

2021 September Member Input:

 

Q1: Y/N 67/108, where Yes = I can attend in person, No - I cannot attend in person

Q2: Y/N 59/116, where Yes - I CANNOT pay the fee, No= I CAN pay the fee

 

 

Thanks very much,

 

Dorothy

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