Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAX] TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-10-22 and 2020-10-23

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Here are my thoughts:

For 25115 I think Menzo was going to solicit feedback from Jouni. The

questions are (1) whether "increments […] in a way that ensures that a PN is not reused"

is clear enough (not always increment by 1) and (2) whether it's OK to

reuse a PN as long as the UP has changed (for PV0, which is all we need

to care about here).

For 25108 the issue I think is that

An originator STA may transmit to a recipient STA the following:

[…]

Up to four dynamic fragments of an MSDU or A-MSDU (if supported by the recipient) for each

MSDU or A-MSDU, and up to one dynamic fragment of an MMPDU in an A-MPDU, where the A-

MPDU contains at least one dynamic fragment using level 3 dynamic fragmentation under block ack

agreement.

is not clear as it suggests only one of the (Data) dynfrags has to be

sent under a BA agreement. Right? Is there any other possible mismatch

between the informal description in 26.3.1 and the normative text in

26.3.2.3/4 (or elsewhere)?

Thanks,

Mark

Mark RISON, Standards Architect, WLAN English/Esperanto/Français

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From: Ganming (Ming) <ming.gan@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 23 October 2020 03:53
To: Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 答复: TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-10-22 and 2020-10-23

Hello Mark and Menzo

Since there are two CIDs that need further input from other individuals or more consideration, do you get any feedback now. If they are ready, we could finish all of them in this week.

By the way, I sent the email to you before, maybe you missed it.

Best wishes

Ming Gan

发件人: *** 802.11 TGax - HEW - High Efficiency WLAN *** [mailto:STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 代表 Mark Rison
发送时间: 2020年10月22日 21:16
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主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGAX] TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-10-22 and 2020-10-23

DCN	CID
11-20/1541	25089, 25090, 25126, 25129, 25068

Regarding 25089/25090, I'm not persuaded by:

NOTE—27.3.4 and 27.3.6.10 specify the requirements on each of the other remaining subfields, such that the solicited non-AP STAs each construct a valid HE TB PPDU in response to the Trigger frame.

Neither 27.3.4 nor 27.3.6.10 have any requirements that I can see about

Trigger frame subfields, let alone combinations that yield "valid" HE TB PPDUs.

Am I missing something?

11-20/1647

25107, 25108, 25109, 25110, 25111, 25112, 25113, 25114, 25115, 25116

I think 25108 and 25115 are not ready (hoping for some Menzo/Jouni updates).

Also for 25109, based on the discussion on the wording for 25110/25111,

maybe "Data frames containing dynamic fragments" should be "Data frames that are dynamic fragments"?

Also I think we'd agreed to fix the grammar in "shall support to transmit and receive".

And 25113 had some Nmax editorial tweaks. In fact, maybe none of the updates

we made during the last teleconf are in r1; maybe 1647r2 was meant to be uploaded

but hasn't?

11-20/1658

25071, 25095, and 25096.

For 25071, "NSTS-1, where the NSTS indicates"

should be "N_STS – 1, where N_STS is"

i.e. italic and subscript in NSTS, minus not hyphen, no article, is not indicates.

Also, the change at 440.48 has been missed.

For 25095, there's a "to indicate indicate".

For 25096, " Responding to all Trigger frame variants, including MU-RTS Trigger frames and NFRP Trigger frames, are suspended"

should be "is suspended" (the subject is "Responding").

Thanks,

Mark

Mark RISON, Standards Architect, WLAN English/Esperanto/Français

Samsung Cambridge Solution Centre Tel: +44 1223 434600

Innovation Park, Cambridge CB4 0DS Fax: +44 1223 434601

ROYAUME UNI WWW: http://www.samsung.com/uk

From: *** 802.11 TGax - HEW - High Efficiency WLAN *** <STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Osama AboulMagd
Sent: Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:51
To: STDS-802-11-TGAX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGAX] TGax CRC Teleconference 2020-10-22 and 2020-10-23

Hello All,

TGax CRC has a conference call scheduled for Thursday October 22 @ 10:00 ET; for 3 hours.

TGax CRC has a conference call scheduled for Friday October 23 @ 10:00 ET; for 2 hours.

I’ve uploaded a draft agenda. It is available at: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1552-11-00ax-tgax-crc-teleconference-agendas-october-november-december-2020.pptx .

A list of CIDs ready for motion includes:

DCN	CID
11-20/1541	25089, 25090, 25126, 25129, 25068
11-20/1647	25107, 25108, 25109, 25110, 25111, 25112, 25113, 25114, 25115, 25116
11-20/1658	25071, 25095, and 25096.

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