Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBC] Resolutions uploaded
Hi Marc and all,
I have uploaded the following resolutions.
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-0768-16-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-11-100-2.xlsx
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-0239-16-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-11-100-2.docx
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1458-02-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-12.xlsx
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1459-00-00bc-resolution-document-for-clause-12.docx
Best Regards,
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Hitoshi MORIOKA
SRC Software Inc.
hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 2021/09/08 0:57、Hitoshi MORIOKA <hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx>のメール:
>
> Hi Marc and all,
>
> I have uploaded the updated resolutions.
>
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-0239-13-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-11-100-2.docx
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-0768-13-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-11-100-2.xlsx
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1458-01-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-12.xlsx
>
> Best Regards,
>
> ---
> Hitoshi MORIOKA
> SRC Software Inc.
> hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>> 2021/09/01 21:50、Hitoshi MORIOKA <hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx>のメール:
>>
>> Hi Marc, Abhi, Mark and all,
>>
>> Thanks for the text.
>>
>> I have uploaded the revised resolutions.
>>
>> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-0768-11-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-11-100-2.xlsx
>> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-0239-11-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-11-100-2.docx
>>
>> Marc,
>>
>> I would like to revisit the following 2 CIDs.
>>
>> CID1005: Text is changed according to Mark’s suggestion. (Highlighted text in P17)
>> CID1409: Although we agreed to remove EBCS filter from the EBCS receiver, it is required to filter the MSDUs by the Content ID that is not cared by the existing DA filtering. (Highlighted text in P18)
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> ---
>> Hitoshi MORIOKA
>> SRC Software Inc.
>> hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2021/09/01 2:50、Abhishek Patil <appatil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>のメール:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your email.
>>>
>>> I am fine with your suggested changes.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Abhi
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ** STDS-802-11-TGbc -- Enhanced Broadcast Service ** <STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Mark Rison
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 8:49 AM
>>> To: STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBC] Resolutions uploaded
>>>
>>> WARNING: This email originated from outside of Qualcomm. Please be wary of any links or attachments, and do not enable macros.
>>>
>>> Hello Abhi,
>>>
>>> How about:
>>>
>>> An EBCS AP shall signal buffered EBCS Data frames via the EBCS TIM element (see 9.4.2.x (EBCS TIM element)) instead of the TIM element [delete: in Beacon frames, since this would prevent EBCS from being used with DMG, for example]. [1005] [do the tables of Beacon, DMG Beacon, (S1G Beacon) contents need to be updated?]
>>>
>>> NOTE—The TIM element has only 1 bit for signaling buffered group addressed frames and so cannot differentiate between different streams of traffic [again, traffic streams has a specific meaning in 802.11]. If an EBCS AP were to use the TIM element, an associated non-AP STA that does not subscribe to any EBCS traffic stream would wake up for the EBCS traffic streams. This would cause unnecessary power consumption at the STA. Similarly, using a TIM element would cause an unassociated non-AP STA that subscribes to an EBCS traffic streamto wake up for any non-EBCS group addressed traffic. [delete: Usage of EBCS TIM element helps avoid such unnecessary power consumption for both category of STAs, since this is over-egging the pudding].
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> --
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>>> From: ** STDS-802-11-TGbc -- Enhanced Broadcast Service ** <STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Abhishek Patil
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 23:06
>>> To: STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBC] Resolutions uploaded
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Morioka-san,
>>>
>>> Thank you for revising the document based on the feedback from the group during the previous call.
>>>
>>> May I suggest alternative text for the following paragraph and NOTE page 17?
>>> <image001.jpg>
>>>
>>> An EBCS AP shall signal buffered EBCS Data frames via the EBCS TIM element (see 9.4.2.x (EBCS TIM element)) instead of the TIM element in Beacon frames. [1005]
>>>
>>> NOTE—The TIM element has only 1 bit for signaling buffered group addressed frames and cannot differentiate between different traffic streams. If an EBCS AP were to use the TIM element, an associated non-AP STA that does not subscribe to EBCS traffic stream will wake up for the EBCS traffic streams. This will cause unnecessary power consumption at the STA. Similarly, using TIM element will cause an unassociated non-AP STA that subscribes to an EBCS traffic streams to wake up for the non-EBCS group addressed traffic. Usage of EBCS TIM element helps avoid such unnecessary power consumption for both category of STAs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Reasoning:
>>> • TIM element signals BUs. Same applies for EBCS TIM element
>>> • The subject in the paragraph and the NOTE is the EBCS AP
>>> • General restructuring for clarity
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Abhi
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ** STDS-802-11-TGbc -- Enhanced Broadcast Service ** <STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Hitoshi MORIOKA
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 1:33 AM
>>> To: STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBC] Resolutions uploaded
>>>
>>> WARNING: This email originated from outside of Qualcomm. Please be wary of any links or attachments, and do not enable macros.
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>>> Hi Marc and all,
>>>
>>> I have uploaded the updated proposed resolutions.
>>>
>>> Excel
>>> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-0768-09-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-11-100-2.xlsx
>>>
>>> Word
>>> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-0239-09-00bc-resolutions-for-clause-11-100-2.docx
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Hitoshi MORIOKA
>>> SRC Software Inc.
>>> hmorioka@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
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