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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] 11-23/1453r0



sorry, one typo in my last mail, "peer" should be "pair" 






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Jay Yang (杨志杰)


Wi-Fi  Standard Research Engineer


ZTE Corporation

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From: 杨志杰
To: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
Date: 2023年09月01日 14:25
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] 11-23/1453r0

Hi Dan,

The state created on the AP and STA is per-AP level, not per-BSS. After the STA associated with the AP(AP1),the STA can send Class1/2/3 frame to AP1. But the STA is only allowed to send Class 1 frame to the second AP(AP2). e.g. the STA can't send Class 3 frame, like Data frame, to AP2. Obviously, the STA is in the state 1 from AP2 perspective. 


When we talk "transactional exchange", i guess there is a precondition to say the transactional exchange shall be between one entity peer, like AP1 and STA1 is an entity peer, while STA1 and AP2 is the another entity peer.  If so, beacon request/report between AP1/STA1 is a transactional exchange, while probe request/response between STA1/AP2 is another transactional exchange. It looks like one transactional exchange insert into the procedure of another transactional exchange. Maybe I'm totally wrong as 11aq doesn't describe this part very clear. 




Best Regards


Jay Yang (杨志杰)


Wi-Fi  Standard Research Engineer


ZTE Corporation

R&D Building I, No.899 Bibo , Pudong District, Shanghai, P. R. China

T: +86 15021324431 

E: yang.zhijie@xxxxxxxxxx

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From: Harkins ,Dan <daniel.harkins@xxxxxxx>
To: 杨志杰10343608;STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
Date: 2023年09月01日 11:02
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] 11-23/1453r0

 

 Hi Jay,

 

  The question is, does the STA doing the probing require the use of any state it had created on an AP in the ESS to perform its activities? If so then what is that state?

 

  Is this a transactional exchange or not? The fact that there might be 4 types of frame exchanges does not affect the answer. So? What's the answer? You don't need to wait until Tuesday, you can answer now.

 

  regards,

 

  Dan.

 

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"the object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to

escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." – Marcus Aurelius

 

On 8/31/23, 6:28 PM, "Jay Yang" <yang.zhijie@ZTE .COM.CN> wrote:

 

Hi Dan,

 

I have a quick look at your contribution. I've some hard time to understand the question "Is a probe made in response to a Beacon Report Request a transactional exchange? ". There are 4 type of frames exchange in this procedure: Beacon request, Beacon report, probe request and probe response. Beacon report is the response to the Beacon request. So not sure what's the meaning "Beacon Report Request" here. 

Anyway, I'm happy to discuss more with you next Tues.

 

 

 

 

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang (志杰)

 

Wi-Fi  Standard Research Engineer

 

ZTE Corporation

R&D Building I, No.899 Bibo , Pudong District, Shanghai, P. R. China

T: +86 15021324431 

E: yang.zhijie@xxxxxxxxxx

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From: MarkHamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>

To: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;

Date: 20230901 03:59

Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] 11-23/1453r0

Thanks, Dan.  I’ve added it.

 

Mark

 

From: Harkins , Dan <daniel.harkins@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 12:41 PM
To : Mark Hamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: STDS-802-11-TGBH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 11-23/1453r0

 

 

  Hi Mark,

 

  I've uploaded document 11-23/1453r0 to mentor. Can you put me on the agenda for the next teleconference on 5 September please?

 

  thanks and regards,

 

  Dan.

 

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"the object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to

escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." – Marcus Aurelius

 

 


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