Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBP] PDT WPT Energizer Control
Hi Sanket, You-wei, and all,
I think we all agree that consensus needs to be reached on the transmission of the excitation signal transmission by a non-collocated AMP Energizer. But I believe You-Wei’s addition does not prevent different PPDU formats from being motioned in the future and added to 40.3.2.1 if that is the consensus reached in the group. I have removed any other details pertaining to how the excitation signal is sent out in the revision 4 uploaded to mentor.
Let me know if this approach is fine.
Kind Regards
Ian
From: Sanket Kalamkar <sankal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBP] PDT WPT Energizer Control
Hi Ian, You-Wei,
I believe the topic of the AMP Energizer sending an AMP DL PPDU containing Data field requires further discussion, as there is currently no consensus on it. For instance, since the AMP Energizer is itself a non-AP STA, several aspects need to be clarified and understood-such as what it means for a non-AP STA (AMP Energizer) to send data directly to another non-AP STA, and what the security implications of that might be.
So, I suggest that we refrain from referencing the AMP DL PPDU in relation to the AMP Energizer at this stage. Let's continue the discussion within the group to reach a clearer understanding.
For now, I am comfortable with the text (without any references to Backscatter PPDU or AMP PPDU) that aligns with the motion text.
Best,
Sanket
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Hi You-Wei,
I am ok with this addition. Let us hear from other members in the group before I upload a revision change.
Kind Regards
Ian
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBP] PDT WPT Energizer Control
Dear all,
I think currently "excitation signal" does not accurately reflect the PHY definition. I would suggestion add one more sentence at the beginning in red
"The AMP Energizer shall support at least WPT or excitation signal transmission. Excitation signal transmission using the PPDU(s) defined in 40.3.2.1 (DL AMP PPDU formats)."
Best Regards,
You-Wei Chen
Ian Bajaj <0000340c29b22c99-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:0000340c29b22c99-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 於 2025年9月17日 週三 下午11:23寫道：
Dear TTT members of Energizer control,
Please find minor updates in revision 4 of the PDT (changes highlighted in cyan), uploaded to the mentor server. Please let me know if there is anything else.
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1357-04-00bp-pdt-wpt-energizer-control.docx
Kind Regards
Ian
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Dear TTT members of Energizer control,
Please find revision 3 of the PDT (changes highlighted in cyan), uploaded to the mentor server based on the feedback received during yesterday’s TGbp session. Please let me know if there are any further amendments before Thursday session, so we can make progress on D0.1. Many thanks!
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1357-03-00bp-pdt-wpt-energizer-control.docx
Kind Regards
Ian
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Dear TTT members of Energizer Control,
Please find revision 1 of the PDT, uploaded to the mentor server (linked below), that has been amended based on the comments received. Thank you Sanket for the comments and discussion. We can discuss the amendments on today’s TGbp teleconference call.
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1357-01-00bp-pdt-wpt-energizer-control.docx
Thanks and Regards
Ian
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Subject: Re: PDT WPT Energizer Control
Hi Ian,
Many thanks for your hard work in putting together the PDT. Please see my first set of annotated comments in the attached Word document. Please let me know if anything in my comments is unclear.
Best,
Sanket Kalamkar
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Dear TTT members of WPT Energizer Control,
I have uploaded the initial version of the PDT for your review. The PDT covers the current passed motions for WPT Energizer Control. Please let me know if there is any feedback.
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1357-00-00bp-pdt-wpt-energizer-control.docx
Kind Regards,
Ian Bajaj
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