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RE: [802.21] 802.16 Requirements Teleconference



So sorry for the previous mistaken message.
Here is what I intended to express.

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Hello,

Question:
Why are we specifying a new CS extension? in 3.6?
In 802.21 draft we are defining two methods to transfer MIH messages. One is
using data plane (new Ethertype) and the other is using control plane. CS
extension in 3.6 is to cover one of two options. Even though we have new
ethertype we should have CS extension for right service flow setup. 

Why not use secondary management connection that does not cross the
Convergence Sublayer.
[Ronny] You are right. We can, of course, use not only secondary management
connection but also primary management connection or basic connection in
order not to cross Convergence Sublayer. It is more likely to transport MIH
messages through Primary or Basic connection than Secondary management
connection. In 802.16 requirement and amendments document, we have a way to
transfer MIH messages through primary and secondary management connection. 

[Junghoon] During the previous conference call for 802.16 requirement works,
it is known that amending the CS SAP is fallback case when amending the
C_SAP/M_SAP does not be done immediately and successfully. Thus, I believe
that we do not need to make explicit statement of requiring amendment of
both the C_SAP/M_SAP and the CS SAP. 
Requiring amending both SAPs might result in burden for IEEE 802.16g folks
to take the 21 requirements.
Is there any opinion who thinks that we need to still require amending CS
SAP when amending C_SAP/M_SAP is done successful ? Please let me know what I
am missing. 


I am saying it because I know the dynamics in .16 and particularly in WiMAX
profiles which will drive the product certification. Currently the forum
can't even agree on having more than one CS type. Just one CS type for now,
imagine? CS is a very sensitive area and we should avoid it if we can. 

[Junghoon] I agree with Peretz's concern here.

Regards,
-Junghoon

[Ronny] I understand your point. However, we can not think of WiMAX profile
yet because simply 802.21 technology is not ready to discuss WiMAX profile.
Maybe in WiMAX profile stage 2 or in later stage we may be able to start
discussion about 802.21 technology. Just like we have different CS types in
802.16 specification, we need to define MIH CS type in 802.16 spec and we
have to see what we can do in WiMAX. 

Besides, CS will be used for packet classification. Do we need to classify
MIH and assign it a unique CID? why not stick to SMC?
Peretz Feder



Regards, 
-Junghoon