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| Joseph, You state: 2-The complete list of PAM5 advantages 
are: a-Lower SNR b-More tolerant to AFE nonlinearity c-Significantly lower 
power I do agree with (a) 
and with (b) though, to avoid confusion I would state (a) as Lower SNR required. 
 Both (a) and (b) 
will reduce AFE power consumption requirements so I agree with (c) also. It 
is good that we agree on this at a qualitative level. The higher baud rate 
does however do the following: (d) Increase 
equalizer and canceller lengths (e) Increase the 
required clock rate at which the above run Because of (d) and 
(e) the digital power consumption goes up - to a first order as the square of 
the symbol rate - so going from 800Msym/sec to 1.2Gsym/sec will, to a first 
order, increase digital power by a factor of 2.25. Again this is a qualitative 
argument. As for the capacity 
calculations with SolarFlare's program, I will leave it to people from 
SolarFlare to respond. To estimate system 
performance, you need to calculate the SNR available at the receiver and compare 
this to the SNR required. For capacity calculations, any transmitted power 
making it to the receiver counts as signal. For system operation, part of the 
signal power making it to the receiver, if not equalized, will add to the noise 
rather than to the signal. The way to estimate actual received SNR is to adapt a 
DFE with a reasonable number of taps and see what this turns out to 
be. I can't recall 
whether someone put up Matlab code to do this SNR calculation up on the 
reflector. If it is, can someone point us to it? Regards, Sanjay cell (650) 704-7686 office (408) 
653-2235 From: stds-802-3-10gbt@IEEE.ORG [mailto:stds-802-3-10gbt@IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Joseph Babanezhad Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:25 AM To: STDS-802-3-10GBT@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [10GBT] [SPAM] [10GBT] symbol rate Sanjay, In May of 1998 at the CICC conference while waiting 
to present my paper  I was listening to Mehdi Hatamian of Broadcom, one 
of the movers & shakers of IEEE 1000BASE-T standard, give his tutorial 
presentation on 802.3ab standard draft. There was one thing that he kept repeating 
it over and over ... and over again; "Remember the most important things for Ethernet 
are power, power and power" If this was relevant to 1000BASE-T it definitely is 
more relative to 10GBASE-T. With this in mind let me address your 
comments: 1-Please do not confuse PAM4 with PAM5 PAM4 baud-rate=1.56 GB/s  
Nyquist-frequency=780 MHz PAM5 baud-rate=1.25 GB/s  
Nyquist-frequency=625 MHz 2-The complete list of PAM5 advantages 
are: a-Lower SNR b-More tolerant to AFE nonlinearity c-Significantly lower 
power 3-As far as channel's higher IL & ANEXT at 
frequencies beyond 500 MHz are concerned the following are the capacity simulation 
results using SolarFlare's provided program from the web-site: Launch Power : 7 dBm (2Vpp PAM5) nextcanc=50; echocanc=65; fextcanc=50;  (1) for model # 1 17.38 Gbps (2) for model #2 solarsep_varlen7a(-10.5,650,4,55,6,1,6,2) 18.40 Gbps (3) for model #3 solarsep_varlen7a(4.5,650,4,100,6,1,6,2) 17 
Gbps Regards, Joseph N. Babanezhad Plato Labs. 
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