| Sanjay,   In May of 1998 at the CICC conference while waiting 
to present my paper  I was listening to Mehdi Hatamian of Broadcom, one 
of the movers & shakers of IEEE 1000BASE-T standard, give his tutorial 
presentation on 802.3ab standard draft. There was one thing that he kept repeating 
it over and over ... and over again;   "Remember the most important things for Ethernet 
are power, power and power"   If this was relevant to 1000BASE-T it definitely is 
more relative to 10GBASE-T. With this in mind let me address your 
comments:   1-Please do not confuse PAM4 with PAM5   PAM4 baud-rate=1.56 GB/s  
Nyquist-frequency=780 MHz PAM5 baud-rate=1.25 GB/s  
Nyquist-frequency=625 MHz   2-The complete list of PAM5 advantages 
are:   a-Lower SNR b-More tolerant to AFE nonlinearity c-Significantly lower 
power   3-As far as channel's higher IL & ANEXT at 
frequencies beyond 500 MHz are concerned the following are the capacity simulation 
results using SolarFlare's provided program from the web-site:   
Launch Power : 7 dBm (2Vpp PAM5)   nextcanc=50; echocanc=65; fextcanc=50;    (1) for model # 1   17.38 Gbps   (2) for model #2 solarsep_varlen7a(-10.5,650,4,55,6,1,6,2)   18.40 Gbps   (3) for model #3 solarsep_varlen7a(4.5,650,4,100,6,1,6,2)   17 
Gbps       Regards,   Joseph N. Babanezhad Plato Labs.     
  ----- Original Message -----  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: [SPAM] [10GBT] symbol rate 
 Looking through 
  some of the prior presentations proposing 4PAM and 5PAM I see 
  that the significant benefits claimed for 5PAM or 4PAM 
  are a) 
  Lower  SNR requirement. b) Lower linearity 
  requirement   Going from 5PAM to 
  10PAM raises the SNR required for the same BER by 6dB.    The increase in 
  SNR required is indeed painful, however the presentations proposing the lower 
  PAM do not take into account the fact that a) The higher 
  symbol rate will result in higher net attenuation since the transmit spectrum 
  extends to higher frequencies where the attenuation is 
  higher b) The alien cross 
  talk is higher at higher frequencies. Both a and b result in the available SNR 
  being lower than what you get at symbol rates below 1Gsym/sec for the 
  Channel models #1 and #3.
 For short cable lengths or lower attenuations, 
  this effect is less severe.   Bottom line is 
  that beyond about 1Gsym/sec, the theoretically achievable system margins drop 
  off sharply.   The higher 
  PAM  (8, 10, 12 etc) will require higher SNR and this implies higher 
  linearity requirements at the transmitter, lower noise in the receiver than if 
  you targeted a shorter distance using 5PAM however I don't think this is a 
  choice we have given our distance objectives.   Please note that 
  this is my personal opinion and not a directive as editor.   I leave this as a 
  qualitative argument because quantitative arguments have been made earlier but 
  don't seem to have been accepted by some.  I hope this 
  helps.   Regards,   Sanjay Kasturia   
  
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