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Re: [STDS-802-11] Updated TGmd agenda posted, next teleconference Friday, August 7th 10am-noon Eastern, extension; includes motions

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Hi Dorothy,
 I have found a few more minor corrections for the Motions:
xviii. a. Resolve CID 4378 - Should be CID 4738 (GEN)

CID 4082 listed in both xxi Motion and xxiii Motion. -
xxiii Motion CID 4082:
Potential Resolution: CID 4082: Rejected.  The CRC could not come to a consensus on proposed changes to resolve this comment.  Some considerations were: The definitions need to cover all types of STAs and BSSs, not just infrastructure BSS.  It’s not clear if this definition is meant to also cover TDLS active/power save mode.  The wording of definitions that make the details of the application of the power save concept to a requesting STA, or to its peer STA, is very difficult in a short sentence, and this will require more work.

 xxi. Motion h. CID 4272 -- cannot be "accepted"   


Add new item: xxiv: Motion GEN CID 4272

a. Resolve CID 4272 as (either 1 or 2)

GEN: 2020-08-06 18:02:17Z - IF review of doc 11-20/435r11 does not have acceptable resolution, then use :

Proposed Resolution #1: Reject; The comment fails to identify changes in sufficient detail so that the specific wording of the changes that will satisfy the commenter can be determined.

ELSE

Proposed Resolution #2 (from 11-20/435r11): Revised; Change 5.1.5.1 as follows:

The MAC data plane architecture (i.e., processes that involve transport of all or part of an MSDU) is shown in Figure 5-1 (MAC data plane architecture(11ak)(#2273)) when transparent FST is not being used and shown in Figure 5-2 (MAC data plane architecture (transparent FST)(11ak)(#2467)(#2273)) when transparent FST is being used.

The dotted line box labeled “Role-specific behaviors” is replaced by one of several options, depending on the role of the STA. See the following subclauses
Editor refer to doc 11-20/0435r11 (https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-0435-11-000m-resolutions-for-some-comments-on-11md-d3-0-sb1.docx) for diagram.

Regards,
Jon
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:15 PM Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
correction for Previous Telecon Minutes Motion:

                                 i.            Motion: Approve the following minutes documents:

a.      July 22, 24, 29, 31 : 11-20/1125r3
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1125-03-000m-telecon-minutes-for-revmd-crc-july-22-31-2020.docx

The Minute for Aug 3, 4, and 5th are included in doc 11-20/1183 but there is an error that will be corrected with the Aug 7th Minutes (Also included in this document).

Only one document to approve on Aug 7th.
Thanks,
Jon


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On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:02 PM Mark Hamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Here’s a suggestion:

 

CID 4082: Rejected.  The CRC could not come to a consensus on proposed changes to resolve this comment.  Some considerations were: The definitions need to cover all types of STAs and BSSs, not just infrastructure BSS.  It’s not clear if this definition is meant to also cover TDLS active/power save mode.  The wording of definitions that make the details of the application of the power save concept to a requesting STA, or to its peer STA, is very difficult in a short sentence, and this will require more work.

 

Am I allowed to say as part of the rationale that, in effect, this just needs more work?  It appears to me that Mark R and Joe are actually aligned in (most of?) the concepts, so there isn’t much technical disagreement here.  They just can’t quite figure out how to get it into words (succinctly).  

 

Mark

 

From: Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 6:47 PM
To: Mark Hamilton <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11] Updated TGmd agenda posted, next teleconference Friday, August 7th 10am-noon Eastern, extension; includes motions

 

Thank you Mark, looks good.

 

Do you have a proposed rejection reason for CID 4082?

 

Dorothy

 

 

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 3:46 PM <mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

All,

 

For agenda item (3)(a)(xxi), which is number of remaining CIDs with no resolutions elsewhere, I have posted a document to resolve some of these, here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1194-00-000m-proposed-resolution-of-remaining-mac-comments.docx

 

This proposes a Revised resolution for 4077, picking up on a suggestion made on our July 21 teleconference.

 

This proposes “Accepted” for CIDs: 4564, 4572, 4648, 4687, 4701, and 4707.

 

With this, I believe all CIDs in the MAC ad hoc have a proposed resolution captured in one of the intended MOTIONS for Friday morning’s REVmd CRC teleconference.

 

Thanks.  Mark

 

From: Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 1:19 PM
To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11] Updated TGmd agenda posted, next teleconference Friday, August 7th 10am-noon Eastern, extension; includes motions

 

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All,

 

next TGmd CRC teleconference, scheduled for Friday 2020-08-07 at 10am Eastern.  The call is scheduled for 2 hours. We are aiming  to complete

 initial SA ballot  comment resolution on this call, thus I will ask the participants to agree to extend the time by 1 hour.

 

The draft agenda includes prepared motions. There are a number of comments that require a resolution direction to be determined.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Dorothy

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