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Mat, Sorry I am late in voting. I vote disapprove with the following comments, Comments on Membership Rules General observation The term working group is used in most places. The term TAG
is used sparsely. I think all these rules apply equally to a TAG. Please put
WG/TAG everywhere it is appropriate so it is clear these rules also apply to a
TAG. Section 7.2.2 The rules state that you can have an election for chair at
any time if such an election is approved by 75%. There is no statement on what
it takes to hold an election for other officers. What is required to have an
election for another office? I scrolled ahead and found a section on WG
Officer Elections. Maybe any references to elections should be moved to that
section. This section should list the officers and maybe their functions. The rules state that the officers of the WG constitute the
WGEC, however, there is no mention of what constitutes a WG officer. There is
mention of a chair and a vice chair. There is no mention of a secretary, technical
editor or any liaisons. There is no mention of the task group officers (TG
chair, vice chair, secretary, technical editor). It is unclear to me who is a
member of the WGEC. It is also unclear to me the function of the WGEC. Section 7.2.3.1 Given that the previous section 7.2.3 states that membership
is my individual I see no way of requiring the following: “In addition, a letter of
intent and/or affiliation statement may be required for membership in a Working
Group.” If we are individuals it does not
make sense to ask who our employer is, assuming that “affiliation”
statement is referring to employment and not some other affiliation (e.g.
church, community organization, etc.). Also, saying such a statement may be
required does not say that it is required. So it does not actually constitute
a rule. Section 7.2.3.2 Reword the following: Membership may be lost if two of the
last three Working Group letter ballots are not returned, or are returned with
an abstention other than “lack of technical expertise.” To Membership may be lost if two of the
last three Working Group letter ballots are not returned, or are returned with
an abstention for reason other
than “lack of technical expertise.” The following sentence is worded
poorly and is hence ambiguous, “Membership is also lost if a
person fails to attend one Plenary and at least one other Plenary or duly
constituted interim session within the span of the three most recent Plenary
sessions.” It sounds like if you miss a plenary
and an interim you loose voting rights. This can be fixed by eliminating the
double negatives. I believe the following text better expresses the intension
of the rule, “Membership is lost if a
person fails to meet the attendance requirement. The attendance requirement states
that in the span of the three most recent plenary sessions the member must
attend at least one plenary session and another plenary session or a duly
constituted interim session.” Section 7.2.4.6 Since a TAG may not be established
by writing a PAR (802.19 did not have a PAR) I think the following could be
change from, “WG shall have an established
set of P&P within 6 months of approval of their initial WG PAR.” To “WG/TAG shall have an
established set of P&P within 6 months of approval of their initial WG PAR
or approval of formation of the WG/TAG.” Also, I have a question. I heard
that the EC must approve the WG P&P. Is that true? I don’t see that
in the P&P. I ask since I am in the process of revising the 802.19 P&P
and want to know if I need to get EC approval once the TAG has completed the
revision. Thanks. Section 7.2.4.7 Move this to earlier in the rules.
The section on getting ride of WG officers precedes how we elect them. That
seems a little out of order. _________________ Steve Shellhammer Intel Corporation (858) 391-4570 -----Original Message----- Dear EC members, Attached you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on
WG Membership & Meeting Policies and Procedures. This ballot was
approved at the Friday March 18, 2005 EC meeting. The text is identical to that presented at the meeting (but changes have been highlighted). The purpose and rationale for the ballot are as given in the attached
ballot document. Ballot Duration: 5/2/2005 - 6/2/2005 @ 11:59 PM EST WG/TAG chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your groups, and invite them to comment through you. Please direct any comments on this revision to the reflector for collection. Thanks & Regards, Mat <<802.0-EC_Voting_Rules-P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf>> Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. Senior Member Technical Staff BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR Office: +1 973.633.6344 email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector.
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