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Re: [802SEC] [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation



G'day all

If you can wait 30 minutes I will have a changed document that meets the
new comments

Andrew 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]
On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006 7:56 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than
25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation

Mike,

Can you change your comment into a 'friendly amendment'?  If we get Tony
and Mat to agree, we have a way to move this forward.

Regards,

--Paul


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Takefman (tak)" <tak@CISCO.COM>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than
25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation


>I agree that Geoffs changes should be made.
>
> Consider my vote now disapprove.
>
> mike
>
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> Michael Takefman              tak@cisco.com
> Distinguished Engineer,       Cisco Systems
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** 
>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:10 PM
>> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 
>> 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation
>>
>> Paul/Colleagues-
>>
>> I have to join Carl and recommend that these slides be DISAPPROVED
>>
>> Please examine these points carefully. I believe they are worthy of 
>> consideration
>>
>> The text, early on (slide 4) says:
>>          - * 8802-1 should be modified so that international 
>> standardisation can always be achieved ...
>>
>> ...which (were there an appropriate WTO case and were I supporting 
>> the "other" side) I would take as evidence for presentation to the 
>> judging
>> body: "Here, the IEEE even admits that they are NOT a lower case 
>> international standard unless they are blessed by ISO/IEC.
>>
>> I do not think we want to say that
>> I do not think that is the case
>> I think is not an appropriate position for 802 to take wrt the 
>> position that the IEEE-SA takes for its standards.
>>
>> Slide 7 statements open a Pandora's box of issues that might well be 
>> nurturing to a relationship with SC6.
>>
>> Slide 9, last bullet
>> Change:
>> A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship with 
>> ISO/IEC is that it provides 802 WG's with the option of establishing 
>> "international standard" status for an 802.x standard through ISO/IEC

>> using a simple documented cooperation process.
>>
>> To:
>> A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship with 
>> ISO/IEC is that it provides 802 WG's with the option of widening 
>> "international standard" recognition for an 802.x standard through 
>> ISO/IEC using a simple documented cooperation process
>>
>> Slide 11:
>> The title:
>> "8802-1 should be modified so that international standardisation can 
>> always be achieved ..."
>> should be changed per my critique of slide 4 above.
>>
>> I support slides 12 through 21
>>
>> Please carefully consider these items and reconsider your vote
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Geoff Thompson
>>
>> At 04:23 PM 9/19/2006 , Paul Nikolich wrote:
>> >Dear EC Members,
>> >
>> >A revised version of the IEEE 802 recommendation on the 8802-1 and 
>> >related documents requested by SC6 is attached for EC approval.
>> >
>> >Motion: The 802 LMSC EC resolves to adopt the attached SC6 
>> >recommendation version 07 dated 19SEP06 (appropriately
>> edited to remove
>> >the "DRAFT" and "Change History" text.)
>> >
>> >Moved-Tony Jeffree Seconded-Mat Sherman
>> >
>> >Please cast your vote as soon as possible.  The ballot closes the 
>> >earlier of either 25 Sept 2006 or 24 hours after every EC
>> member has cast a vote.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >--Paul Nikolich
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