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Re: [802SEC] straw poll--is it time to abolish the non-conflicted EC?



Pat,
Your assumption is correct--I want all members of the EC to provide their 
input.  I apologize for the late notice, but it just occured to me this 
week--so better late than never.  We are at least getting the discussion 
going, regardless if we can take any action next week.
Regards,
--Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Thaler" <pthaler@BROADCOM.COM>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll--is it time to abolish the non-conflicted 
EC?


> Paul,
>
> First off, I assume that those of us who are conflicted can state our
> opinion on this because reflector discussion isn't restricted to EC
> voters. However if it came down to a vote on action, it isn't clear to
> me whether the conflicted EC could vote.
>
> I don't think we can reverse what the SASB said we needed to do so the
> only action we could take would be to petition the SASB. Unless we have
> some indication that they would be receptive to a petition, it doesn't
> seem worth spending time on.
>
> I have a timing issue with discussing this further at this point. Your
> email went out Wednesday afternoon before the plenary. I feel I would
> need to consult with my legal counsel before weighing in on this
> decision and my counsel might want some time to consider their response.
> I expect I'm not the only recused EC member that feels that necessary. I
> have a non-IEEE standards meeting Friday, travel time to it tomorrow and
> a mountain of prep work to do for the meeting next week. I think more
> notice is necessary before this is discussed.
>
> I know the non-conflicted EC partitioning is a pain and I agree with the
> sentiments that John Lemon expressed on a personal level, however once
> this was put in place, removing it isn't that simple.
>
> Regards,
> Pat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:09 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: [802SEC] straw poll--is it time to abolish the non-conflicted
> EC?
>
> All,
>
> I want to get a sense of the EC regarding the non-conflicted EC
> partitioning on 802.20 WG matters.  Do you think it is reasonable for us
> to consider abolishing the non-conflicted EC, now that the 802.20 WG has
> moved to entity voting and seems to be operating in a fair, open and
> unbiased manner (at least that is my opinion)?
>
> I am not sure if we have the authority to abolish the non-conflicted EC,
> that may rest with SASB.  But we can petition SASB to abolish it, if
> that is the consensus of the EC.  Something to think about....
>
> Please weigh in on this via the reflector.  We can discuss it a bit at
> the opening EC meeting during the non-conflicted EC status request
> agenda item, but we don't have time to get in to a long discussion.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
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