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Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Plenary Session Coffee Break Times

Hi Buzz,

I vote disapprove.

I generally agree with what Roger and others have said, except I'd rather see break timing dealt with more by the individual groups rather than by the EC.  Coffee should generally be available, and longer hours are better than shorter.  Snacks like Ice cream are what drive the stampede.   If there were some better way of staging availability of the snacks, that would help.  I think people rush out as soon as they see (or expect to see) particularly choice snacks because if they don't, there won't be any when they get out later.  I think that is the issue that needs to be addressed rather than people leaving the room while the WG or TG is still in session. While the break activities do cause noise, usually that can be addressed by closing the door to the room.  And to be clear, I'm not suggesting more snacks, just that we need a better way of staging availability of the snacks, or perhaps the make up of the snacks.

So, I'd rather allow for 2 hours (or at least 1.5 hours) of break time in the afternoon to give chairs the flexibility to schedule breaks around their activities, rather than their activities around the break. If you address the desire to rush out for the snacks, I think you will resolve the issues you note in your motion.  Perhaps Chairs can all be firmer about decorum in leaving and entering the meeting rooms.  Just some thoughts.


Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. 
Engineering Fellow 
BAE Systems -  Network Systems (NS) 
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-----Original Message-----
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [] On Behalf Of Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:31 AM
Subject: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Plenary Session Coffee Break Times
Importance: High



Paul has authorized me to issue the following motion for your consideration.



Whereas:  It has been observed by one of our WG Chairs that our current
2-hour coffee break windows (9-11am) and (2-4pm) can be disruptive to the
meetings in progress since they allow attendees to leave the meeting in
progress to get coffee or snacks, which can then inspire other attendees to
do the same.  So it has been proposed that the interval for coffee breaks be
shortened to reduce this problem.  


And Whereas:  It has also been observed that the current 2-hour window
permits more flexibility in when breaks are taken to accommodate the
completion of topics under discussion without interruption.  


Therefore:  After due consideration it has been proposed that we ask the EC
to vote on whether we should shorten the coffee break interval to 1-hour
instead of the current 2-hours, i.e. (10-11am) and (2:30-3:30pm).




To approve reduction of the IEEE-802 Plenary Session coffee breaks from
2-hours to 1-hour, i.e. (10-11am) and (2:30-3:30pm).  


 Moved:  Buzz Rigsbee

 Seconded: John Hawkins


Start of ballot: Tuesday, 2 March 2010;  Close of ballot: Saturday, 6th
March, 2010 or as soon as possible.  



Early close: As required in subclause 'Electronic Balloting of the
IEEE project 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual, this
is notice that this ballot may close early once sufficient responses are
received to clearly decide a matter.  




Thanx, Buzz

Please note my contact info: 

Dr. Everett O (Buzz) Rigsbee

Executive Secretary, IEEE-802 LMSC

7750 80th Place SE

Mercer Island, WA  98040-5912

ph/fx: 206-236-2229

cell: 206-818-4978

SkypeID:  BRigsB


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