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Re: [802SEC] +++ 30 day EC email ballot ++++ Proposed changes to 802 P&P


As a further update, a note from Lisa Perry

"The C/LM Sponsor P&Ps were conditionally approved by AudCom today. The
condition is that the three changes in the checklist (related to approval by vote) must be incorporated."

So, if this motion passes, we would have a new P&P.

It is my interpretation that this ballot cannot finish early, but nevertheless, please do not fail to vote.

James Gilb

On 12/03/2012 02:24 PM, James P. K. Gilb wrote:
802 EC members

We received a comment on our proposed P&P.  In our old P&P, public
statements require only majority vote, however in the new baseline, they
require super majority vote.

In keeping with our old P&P, I had moved this from super majority to
simple majority.   However, in that baseline, the super majority items
are not allowed to be moved to simple majority.

Hence, I have posted a new proposed P&P to mentor at
and I have attached a copy as well.

This email serves as the submission 30 days in advance of the conclusion
of an electronic ballot to approve them.  I propose the following motion
to be confirmed by an EC electronic ballot that concludes on January 3,

This motion is proposed using the process defined in "Revision of
Sponsor P&P" in our currently approved Sponsor P&P.

Moved: The 802 EC approves the document ec-12-0084-00-00EC as the IEEE
802 LMSC Policies and Procedures that will be submitted to AudCom for
approval, with editorial changes allowed.

Moved: James Gilb
Second: Jon Rosdahl

Reference, from Clause 12 of IEEE 802's approved P&P:

12 Revision of Sponsor P&P

Revisions to these P&P shall be submitted to the sponsor no less than 30
day in advance of a motion (or conclusion of an electronic ballot) to
approve them. Amendments in response to comments on the P&P are
permitted. Insufficient time to consider complex amendments is a valid
reason to vote disapprove. A motion to revise the Sponsor P&P shall
require a vote of approve by at least two thirds of all members of the

Second Vice Chair's note regarding threshold for passing the motion:
We have 5 officers, 9 WG/TAG chairs, 2 chairs of hibernating WGs and 2
member emeriti
  - 10 WGs/TAGs, but count Gilb in officers, not as TAG chair
  - 18 members, 2/3 approval is 12 affirmative votes

James Gilb
IEEE 802 Second Vice Chair

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