Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBP] PDT: Transmit and receiver specification TBDs.

[Nelson Costa <nelson@xxxxxxxx>]

Amichai, please see my reasoning in the discussion section, under "Notes on downlink receiver maximum input level".  

On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 3:45 PM Amichai Sanderovich <amichai.sanderovich@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank you Nelson for the fast response and taking care of this.

I noticed that the maximum input for DL for active TX receivers is still in the document (comment 2). 

BTW, replacing "non-backscatter” with “AMP-Enabled” in that 40.3.12.5 paragraph will also work for us.

Best Regards

Amichai

From: Nelson Costa <nelson@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, 16 September 2026 at 22:19
To: STDS-802-11-TGBP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBP] PDT: Transmit and receiver specification TBDs.

Hi all, 

Here is the latest version of the Transmit and Receiver specification TBDs.  I've tried to address all comments.  

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/26/11-26-1542-01-00bp-pdt-transmit-and-receiver-specification-tbds.docx

Cheers, 

Nelson.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 6:32 PM Amichai Sanderovich <amichai.sanderovich@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Nelson,

Some comments on 1542:

1. We suggest to change the tables values as follows:

Table 40-11—DL receiver minimum input level sensitivity for non-backscatter and bistatic backscatter active TX receivers 

AMP-DL-MCS index	Modulation	Data Rate (kb/s)	Minimum sensitivity (dBm)[N1]
0	AMP MC-OOK	250	TBD -81 -35
1	AMP MC-OOK	1000	TBD -78 -25

Table 40-14—UL receiver minimum input level sensitivity for active Tx

AMP-UL-AT-MCS index AMP-UL-AT-MCS index [N1]	Modulation	Rate (R)	Data Rate (kb/s)	Minimum sensitivity (dBm)[N2]
0	AMP MC-OOK	1/2	250	TBD -94 -84
1	AMP MC-OOK	1/2	1000	TBD -88 -78
2	AMP MC-OOK	1	4000	TBD -78 -68

2. Further we suggest to remove the maximum sensitivity requirement for the active TX DL receivers:

For non-backscatter and bistatic backscatter, the receiver shall provide a maximum PER of 10% at a PSDU length of 20 octets for all MCSs, for a maximum input level of -20 dBm in the 2.4 GHz band, measured at each physical antenna port for any baseband AMP modulation.

Best Regards,

Amichai

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From: Nelson Costa <nelson@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, 11 September 2026 at 22:25
To: STDS-802-11-TGBP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBP] PDT: Transmit and receiver specification TBDs.

Hi all, 

Please help to review this PDT.  It fills in all the TBDs related to the transmit and receiver specification.  Comments welcome.

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/26/11-26-1542-00-00bp-pdt-transmit-and-receiver-specification-tbds.docx

Cheers, 

Nelson.

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