Re: [802SEC] Chair re-election - proposed interpretation/rules change
I agree in general, but as to the EC, I think we are still bound on
electronic voting to have the denominator be members of the EC. To be
sure though, I'd check the final resolution on IEEE Bylaw 300-I
(something I don't have time for right now) that IEEE-SA (Howard
Wolfmann) was working with the IEEE Board of Directors.
From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:06 PM
To: 'J Lemon'; Grow, Bob
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Chair re-election - proposed interpretation/rules
Further comments in context below ...
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> interpretation/rules change
> I heartily agree.
> On 11/8/2007 3:21 PM, Grow, Bob wrote:
> > Colleagues:
> > We will have a much cleaner P&P if as much as possible we
> centralize the voting and think carefully before specifying
> what majority is required throughout the document.
> listed a number of permutations. I think it would be best to
> state how a vote in a meeting is counted and only where
> necessary put in language that either intentionally or
> unintentionally defines the denominator. So, in this case,
> if the desire of the waiver of term limits is to be a 75% of
> Y/Y+N, then only the 75% majority of a meeting vote belongs
> in the waiver requirement and the specification of what is a
> denominator is covered in the general section.
I think that whatever percentage is specified in any section of our P&P,
the demonimator should always be clearly specified as Y/(Y+N) of those
present and voting (abstains and "did not votes" should not count in the
Then, if we want/feel_we_need_to set a higher bar than a simple majority
for a particular item in other sections of our P&P, then all we need to
do is to say "by a vote of xx% of the EC." And the general section on
voting should say something like, "Unless specified elsewhere as a
requirement for a particular voting issue, a simple majority (Y/(Y+N))
of those voting members of the EC present and voting, or voting via an
electronic ballot, shall be required to decide the matter. In any case
where this P&P requires a higher percentage threshold of approval than a
simple majority, that percentage shall be determined on the basis of
(Y/(Y+N)) of those voting members of the EC present and voting."
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