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Re: [802SEC] Motion to amend Rome to Vancouver



Sorry ... I stand corrected.

Carl
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Thaler [mailto:pthaler@broadcom.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:11 PM
> To: wk3c@wk3c.com; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Motion to amend Rome to Vancouver
> 
> Carl,
> 
> RROR says that I can amend a motion that is already passed. 
> It is essentially another form of the motion to rescind. RROR 
> is usually sensible when you get down to it and doesn't 
> require doing two motions - one to rescind and another to put 
> the correct action in place when it could be done with one 
> motion to "amend something previously adopted: 
> 
> From RROR Chapter IX Motions that bring a question again 
> before the assembly, Section 35 Rescind; Amend something 
> previously adopted:
> 
> 35. RESCIND; AMEND SOMETHING PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED
> By means of the motions to Rescind and to Amend Something 
> Previously Adopted - which are two forms of one [page 294] 
> incidental main motion governed by identical rules - the 
> assembly can change an action previously taken or ordered. 
> Rescind - also known as Repeal or Annul - is the motion by 
> which a previous action or order can be canceled or 
> countermanded. The effect of Rescind is to strike out an 
> entire main motion, resolution, rule, bylaw, section, or 
> paragraph that has been adopted at some previous time. Amend 
> Something Previously Adopted is the motion that can be used 
> if it is desired to change only a part of the text, or to 
> substitute a different version. 
> 
> Therefore, if you think it would be legitimate to rescind, it 
> is just as legitimate to amend the motion previously adopted. 
> They run under exactly the same rules.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Pat
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:wk3c@wk3c.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:59 PM
> To: Pat Thaler; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Motion to amend Rome to Vancouver
> 
> Pat,
> 
> I don't think that you can ammend a motion that already passed.
> 
> You can make a motion to recind the previous action and adopt 
> a different
> decision, however, and be procedurally correct.
> 
> Again, while I'm not Paul, according to my understanding of 
> our rules, our
> session ended at 6:00 pm EST on Friday with the close of the 
> EC meeting, so
> it is no longer a motion to reconsider that would require the 
> motion be made
> by one on the prevailing side.
> 
> Carl
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of 
> Pat Thaler
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:20 PM
> > To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > Subject: [802SEC] Motion to amend Rome to Vancouver
> > 
> > Colleagues,
> > 
> > The list server seems to not like something about my post of 
> > the motion
> > to amend our decision on plenary location for March 2009. So 
> > here it is
> > without the rationale. I hope that will get rid of whatever 
> > word in the
> > message is causing a problem.
> > 
> > If Paul rules that it is in order, I would like to make a motion to
> > amend the previously adopted motion to replace "Rome" with 
> > "Vancouver".
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Pat
> > 
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