I agree with Adrian. Specifically the language "if they are
influencing what positions you take on issues" as under such
definition I would have to declare a great many people as
"affiliations": essentially anyone who I have ever had a technical
discussion. Influencing other's positions is how we build consensus
, which is as the point of the standards process. The "e.g." is
more on point and perhaps should be the normative, rather than the
informative, part of the definition (that is a good guess but still
a guess). Even the e.g. is too broad to be valid in a field where
reputation is a critical part of our professional "product
Yes, I am parsing words because what is written down is what we must
follow, not what might have been intended upon which we can only
guess. As written it is impossible to follow, which would seem to
exclude it from a "best practice".
On 10/29/2017 11:54 PM, Adrian Stephens
I object to this language: "if they are influencing what
positions you take on issues (e.g., if continued work is probably
dependent on taking an agreeable position, then you are being
influenced by that affiliate)."
We have an obligation to be independent. Declaring an affiliation
does not remove that obligation.
An affiliation may influence your judgement inasmuch as it exposes
you to facts that alter your judgement
(e.g. about the value of some feature in some market). However,
the language cited could be read as condoning
an instruction to take a position. It should be clarified.
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
Phone: +1 (971) 203-2032
On 28/10/2017 17:08, Paul Nikolich
Dear EC Members,
I asked Jonathan Goldberg to prepare a document that can be
used as a 'best practices guide' on the declaration of
affiliation requirements for 802 participants (https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0171-00-00EC-ieee-declaration-of-affiliation.pdf
and to briefly introduce the topic at the opening EC meeting.
I want to ensure the policy is well understood and applied
consistently across all our groups. To that end, Jonathan and
Kathryn will make themselves to present the full slide deck
for discussion and answer questions during your group plenary
meetings. Please share the slide deck and allocate time to
review during the November plenary session with your groups.
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