IEEE P802.3cy Greater than 10 Gb/s Electrical Automotive Ethernet PHY Task Force

802.3 Task Force Ad Hoc teleconference area

The next (General) IEEE P802.3cy Greater than 10 Gb/s Electrical Automotive Ethernet PHY Task Force ad hoc is:

None scheduled 8AM Pacific Time – see IEEE 802.3 Call and Meeting Calendar for info

Regular Meeting Time is from 7AM-9AM US Pacific Time, on Tuesdays.

Please see the B10GAUTO email reflector for Web Conference and other details.

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Note: “(ver 01a)” or similar, indicates the version has been updated since the initial upload – check these for new files

Title	Presenters(s)	Affiliation(s)
Ad hoc meetings 2020
5 August ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Link Segment Measurements	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
P802.3cy To-do list usage	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
2 September ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
P802.3cy Link Segment Estimate	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Link Segment Length Proposal	Haysam M. Kadry	Ford
Test Points to Control Board Losses	George Zimmerman	CME Consulting, Inc., Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 2 September 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
16 September ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Link Segment Insertion Loss Measurements	Eric DiBiaso Bert Bergner Emilio Cuesta	TE Connectivity
P802.3cy To-do list 16 September 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
30 September ad hoc teleconference
Agenda (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Link Segment IL Measurement (01a)	Harsh Patel	Molex
MDI connector insertion loss	Thomas Müller Michael Angerbauer	Rosenberger
Time Domain Limits for Return Loss	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
P802.3cy To-do list 30 September 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
14 October ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Cable Insertion Loss Measurements	Rich Boyer	Aptiv
Automotive STP cable measurements	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
Insertion Loss and PHY Complexity	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
A Limit on Micro Reflections	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia (deferred to 21 October)
Method for Restricting Micro-Reflections	Ragnar Jonsson Ramin Farjadrad	Marvell (deferred to 21 October)
P802.3cy To-do list 14 October 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
21 October ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
A Limit on Micro Reflections	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
Method for Restricting Micro-Reflections	Ragnar Jonsson Ramin Farjadrad	Marvell
Link segment topology proposal for testing (01c) Updated 2/16/21	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger (deferred to 28 October)
28 October ad hoc teleconference
Agenda (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Link segment topology proposal for testing (01c)	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
Link Segment Insertion Loss Measurements - Updated with 7 meters (01b)	Eric DiBiaso, Bert Bergner, Emilio Cuesta	TE Connectivity
Evaluation of different Shielded Differential Pair (SDP) raw cables AWG26	Erwin Koeppendoerfer Dominik Dorner	Leoni
Asymmetry in 802.3cy	Kamal Dalmia	Independent
P802.3cy To-do list 28 October 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
1 December ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Automotive STP and SDP cable measurement results	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
Channel Capacity Calculator Updates (01a) Channel capacity calculator V1.2 (Excel spreadsheet, 01a)	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 1 December 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
8 December ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Cable Measurements	Rich Boyer	Aptiv
Refined Method for Restricting Micro-Reflections	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
Limiting Factors on Signal-to-Noise Ratio	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
P802.3cy To-do list 8 December 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
15 December ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Symmetrical 2-pair and Asymmetrical 1-pair TDD operation SNR Margin with updated parameters	Kamal Dalmia	Aviva Links
Link segment insertion loss measurements	Christian Neulinger	MD Elektronik
Automotive link segment measurement results (01a)	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
P802.3cy To-do list 15 December 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Ad hoc meetings 2021
5 January ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Tx Function to Rx Function Channel Considerations (01a)	Chris DiMinico	MC Communications/PHY‐SI LLC/Panduit/SenTekse
Limit Line for Insertion Loss	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
Proposed IEEE 802.3cy Timeline	Steve Carlson	HSD, Bosch, Ethernovia
P802.3cy To-do list 5 January 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
12 January ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Channel Capacity Calculator V1.3 Channel capacity calculator V1.3 (Excel spreadsheet)	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
Worst Case Cable Temp	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Immunity to Radiated Electric Field Above 4.0 GHz	Rich Boyer	Aptiv
A Proposal for the Limit Line of Insertion Loss	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
P802.3cy To-do list 12 January 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
19 January ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Achievable Cable Reach for different cable models and PAM sizes	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
Link Segment Measurements (01a)	Eric DiBiaso, Bert Bergner, Emilio Cuesta	TE Connectivity
Thoughts on the IL strawman (01a)	George Zimmerman	CME Consulting, Inc., Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 19 January 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
19 January PHY ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Reduced Set of PHY Design Parameters (01a)	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
9 February ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Insertion Loss MEASUREMENTS 26 AWG and 24 AWG STP CABLES (01a)	Stefan Gianordoli Jonathan Silvano de Sousa	Gebauer & Griller Kabelwerke Gesellschaft m.b.H
25GBASE-T1: Status and Way Forward	Sujan Pandey	Huawei Technologies Netherlands B.V.
P802.3cy To-do list 9 February 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
16 February ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Calculated SNR Margin for 24AWG (01a) (Title has changed from ver 01)	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 16 February 2020	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
23 February ad hoc teleconference
Agenda (01a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Return Loss MEASUREMENTS 24 AWG STP CABLES	Stefan Gianordoli Jonathan Silvano de Sousa	Gebauer & Griller Kabelwerke Gesellschaft m.b.H
Laning Split for PMA Reuse	George Zimmerman	CME Consulting, Inc., Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 23 February 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
1 March ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
EMC Ingress Into Shielded Connection Systems	Rich Boyer	Aptiv
PCB INSERTION LOSS MATERIAL COMPARISON (01a)	Haysam M. Kadry	Ford
P802.3cy To-do list 1 March 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
15 March ad hoc teleconference
Agenda (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Link segment (alien) crosstalk and inter-pair skew measurement results	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
P802.3cy OAM Proposal (01a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
MDI PARAMETERS (01a)	Haysam M. Kadry	Ford
23 March ad hoc teleconference
Agenda (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
LINK SEGMENT ALIEN CROSSTALK MEASUREMENT RESULTS (01a)	Harsh Patel	Molex
A Limit for Cumulative Power of Micro-Reflections	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
Metrics for Micro-Reflection Limit	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
Latest MATLAB code	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 23 March 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
20 April ad hoc teleconference
Agenda (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Insertion Loss Limit Proposal for 802.3cy (01a)	Eric DiBiaso Jonathan Silvano de Sousa Natalie Wienckowski Thomas Mueller Stefan Gianordoli Erwin Koeppendoerfer Chris DiMinico Bert Bergner Rich Boyer Christian Neulinger Harsh Patel	TE GG - Austria GM Rosenberger GG Group LEONI Kabel GmbH MC Communications/Panduit TE Aptiv MD Electronik Molex
Channel Capacity Calculator V1.4 Updates	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
Channel Capacity Calculator V1.4 (Excel)	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 20 April 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
27 April ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
P802.3cy PCB and test Fixture Considerations (01a)	Chris DiMinico Haysam Kadry	MC Communications, PHY-SI LLC, SenTeske Ford
P802.3cy To-do list 27 April 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
18 May ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
802.3cy link segment insertion loss	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
802.3cy Update PCB and Test Fixture Considerations (01a)	Chris DiMinico Haysam Kadry	(MC Communications/PHY-SI LLC/Panduit/SenTekse) Ford
OAM for laned systems (deferred to May 25 interim)	George Zimmerman	CME Consulting, Inc., Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 18 May 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
1 June ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Simulation results for an AWG 24 SPP	Erwin Koeppendoerfer	LEONI Kabel GmbH
Insertion Loss Margin Evaluation	Eric DiBiaso Emilio Cuesta	TE Connectivity TE Connectivity
P802.3cy To-do list 1 June 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
15 June ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
802.3cy Test Fixture Considerations (01b)	Chris DiMinico Haysam Kadry	(MC Communications/PHY-SI LLC/Panduit/SenTekse) Ford
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 15 June 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
22 June ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Return Loss Limit Proposal	Eric DiBiaso, Emilio Cuesta Thomas Müller	TE Connectivity Rosenberger
802.3cy Link Segment IL Baseline Proposal	Chris DiMinico Haysam Kadry	(MC Communications/PHY-SI LLC/Panduit/SenTekse) Ford
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 22 June 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
3 August ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Choice of Modulation	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
Modulation Evaluation	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
802.3cy coupling- and screening attenuation	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
Nonlinear Precoding	Hossein Sedarat	Ethernovia
Modulation SNR Margin Evaluation and Precoder Proposal for the 25G Automotive PHY (01a)	German Feyh Mike Tu Tom Souvignier	Broadcom
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 3 August 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
10 August ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Parameters for PHY analyses: (01 – input to meeting) (01a – reflecting meeting discussion)	George Zimmerman	CME Consulting, Inc., Marvell
Values for Micro-Reflection Limit	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
P802.3cy ECU Power Requirements	Natalie Wienckowski Haysam Kadry	GM Ford
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 10 August 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
31 August ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
On Using PAM4 Modulation (01a)	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
802.3cy Test Fixture Considerations	Chris DiMinico Haysam Kadry	(MC Communications/PHY-SI LLC/Panduit/SenTekse) Ford
EMC REQUIREMENTS	Haysam Kadry	Ford
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 31 August 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
7 September ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Modulation SNR Margin Evaluation and Precoder Proposal for the 25G Automotive PHY	German Feyh Mike Tu Tom Souvignier	Broadcom
Text for PAM4 Modulation	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
802.3cy Test Fixture Considerations (01a)	Chris DiMinico Haysam Kadry	(MC Communications/PHY-SI LLC/Panduit/SenTekse) Ford
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 7 September 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
19 October ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
P802.3cy Annex 165A Proposal	Natalie Wienckowski Chris DiMinico Haysam Kadry	GM (MC Communications/PHY-SI LLC/Panduit/SenTekse) Ford
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 19 October 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
26 October ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Confirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
802.3cy Micro-Reflexions Measurement Results	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 26 October 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
23 November ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
802.3cy Ingress Noise Measurement Results (01a)	Thomas Müller	Rosenberger
OAM changes to add lane information	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Pre-review Drafts	Steve Carlson Natalie Wienckowski	HSD, Bosch, Ethernovia GM
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 23 November 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
7 December ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
EEE Scenarios for Automotive Links	George Zimmerman	ADI, APL Group, Cisco, CommScope, Marvell, SenTekSe
Link Segment Insertion Loss For Low Frequencies	German Feyh	Broadcom
802.3cy FEC Considerations	Mike Tu Chung-Jue Chen Maged Barsoum	Broadcom
FEC and Interleaving	Alejandro Castrillon Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 7 December 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
14 December ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
EEE Scenarios for Automotive Links (additional discussion-postponed to 12/21)	George Zimmerman	ADI, APL Group, Cisco, CommScope, Marvell, SenTekSe
165.7.1 Link Transmission Parameter and Variable Naming	Chris DiMinico	(MC Communications/PHY-SI LLC/Panduit/SenTekse)
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 14 December 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
21 December ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
EEE Scenarios for Automotive Links (additional discussion-postponed to 12/21)	George Zimmerman	ADI, APL Group, Cisco, CommScope, Marvell, SenTekSe
New Parameter Values for Micro-Reflection Limits	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
FEC and Interleaving Candidate	Ragnar Jonsson Mike Tu Alejandro Castrillon	Marvell Broadcom Marvell
P802.3cy To-do and task timeline list 21 December 2021	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Ad hoc meetings 2022
22 February ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
802.3cy PMA Training Frame	Mike Tu	Broadcom
Low Frequency IL Proposal for P802.3cy (01b)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
P802.3cy To-do list 22 February 2022	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
29 March ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
PoDL Considerations for MDI Return Loss Mask	Andrew Gardner	ADI
P802.3cy To-do list 29 March 2022	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
5 April ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Design Considerations for EEE	Ragnar Jonsson Alireza Razavi Majomard	Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 5 April 2022	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
3 May ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Update on Laning for 802.3cy (01b)	George Zimmerman	ADI, APL Group, Cisco, CommScope, Marvell, SenTekSe
PoDL MDI Return Loss Update Data file (Excel) PoDL MDI Return Loss Update Summary	Andrew Gardner	ADI
Clarify EEE Quiet Signaling	Ragnar Jonsson Alireza Razavi Majomard	Marvell
Revisit Alert Signaling	Ragnar Jonsson Alireza Razavi Majomard	Marvell
P802.3cy To-do list 3 May 2022	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
2 August ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Scrambler Performance for Speed Beyond 25GBASE-T1	Sujan Pandey	Huawei B.V.
P802.3cy To-do list 2 August 2022	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
1 November ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Issues to Consider for Low Frequency Limit	George Zimmerman	CME Consulting/Marvell
P802.3cy D3.0 issues list 1 November 2022	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
22 November ad hoc teleconference
Agenda (01a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Standards Association Ballot and RevCom Tutorial (22 November 2022)	Steve Carlson Natalie Wienckowski David Law	HSD, Bosch, Ethernovia GM HPE
P802.3cy Voting and Commenting – SA ballot (01d)	Steve Carlson Natalie Wienckowski	HSD, Bosch, Ethernovia GM
P802.3cy D3.0 issues list 22 November 2022 (unchanged from 1 November)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
29 November ad hoc teleconference (CANCELLED)
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
P802.3cy D3.0 issues list 29 November 2022 (unchanged from 1 November)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
6 December ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Response to Comment #541 on D2.0	Ragnar Jonsson	Marvell
P802.3cy D3.0 issues list 6 December 2022	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
20 December ad hoc teleconference
Agenda	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Realtime oscilloscope bandwidth considerations for 25 Gbps PAM4 patterns (01a)	Jae-yong Chang	Keysight Technologies
P802.3cy D3.0 issues list 20 December 2022 (no update from 6 December)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Ad hoc meetings 2023
14 February ad hoc teleconference
Agenda (a)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Unconfirmed minutes	Natalie Wienckowski	GM
Time Domain Echo Metrics in 802.3cy D3.0	George Zimmerman	APL Group, Cisco, CommScope, Marvell, OnSemi, SenTekSe
P802.3cy D3.1 To-do list 14 February 2023 (none)	Natalie Wienckowski	GM

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IEEE 802.3 Greater than 10 Gb/s Automotive Electrical Ethernet  PHYs Task Force Public Area
Last Update: 2/20/2023 9:21 AM PT

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